Location Goldrush!

Having just returned back from Jakarta, great city BTW, I noticed a trend among some of the startups around Southeast Asia – chasing the location gold. Sites or mobile applications that will focus on where u are, what are u doing, what do u want to do and who or what is around u. This is a cool segment because it is very focused on the consumer but at the same time it has technical challenges but the opportunity for making money down the road is big.

I have not seen anyone really nail it yet but there are some interesting players to watch.

In Singapore there is hungrygowhere which is more of Yelp for SEA but I think they will get pushed into being more aware of location as key to their space. I like their stuff and they are expanding into other countries but I think they need to drastically simplify their interface and their review criteria. The only thing that keeps me from putting more reviews into it is that it takes far too much time. So right now I just use it to find things but they will want to address that issue or they will lose people to simpler systems.

Foyage is a player in Singapore and Indonesia. They are doing some interesting work but are mobile only. I think all the players needs mobile and web interfaces to win. This is a blurb from Foyage:

Foyage helps you to find places and people nearby.

Foyage also enables you to find out if there are other Foyagers nearby.

Make friends and get their latest comments showed automatically to your screen.

And by adding your favorites spots to the favorite list, you can always be the first to receive the latest updates about it.

I like how Foyage is trying to get regional fast. Smart move since for me I will eventually use the app that is mobile, on the web and in the most countries I travel in. Having to use a different app or service for each country will get old. Expect the smart guys to roll each other up or acquire each other to scale quickly – at least they should.

Koprol seems to be the same as Foyage but only in Indonesia and only a web app that can ne used on the phone. They are building real mobile clients. I like their biz model and they are aggressive but only seem to be focusing on Indonesia. Indonesia – unlike the other countries in SEA could be a standalone business but when it comes to monetization and heft – the regional players who also cover Indonesia will do better long term.

urbanesia is another Indonesian based group working on smart online yellow pages with location and commenting but I don’t see any rating system. They also don’t seem to have mobile clients but they are gathering location stuff – meaning the places to go.

The problem with all of SEA is there is little location data and this won’t change. So these companies are spending money to build up location databases which is not cheap to do. I think some of them might want to work together on this problem by using shared data but building their own value add on top. I think the player with the most usable endpoints (mobile, web  & TV) who has the best model for user generated content might get the biggest DB but this will not ensure success.

This is a fun space to watch. If readers or companies are aware of other similar players please comment – thanks!

Foyage also enables you to find out if there are other Foyagers nearby.
Make friends and get their latest comments showed automatically to your screen.
And by adding your favorites spots to the favorite list, you can always be the first to receive the latest updates about it.
Wherever you go, Foyage is your personal radar

Mobile Monday Recap

mm1Dropped in from the skies, got into my Silver Bird merc and headed through the sick traffic to the Amigos Restaurant at the Bellagio Mall. It was Mobile Monday time!

I have heard about this before but have never attended one in person. Must have been close to 150+ plus in attendance. The format is simple. Sponsors speak, for too long, and then people who have apps to show off get to speak for 5 mins or so. I think they should give everyone 10 and sponsors 5 mins but that is just my opinion.

All in all a great event run by Andy Zain and folks. Nice work.

I was there in my Yahoo capacity but I think there was some interesting startup activity to mention.

The team over at Seatech showed off capripromo:

Caripromo is an information portal for merchant discounts and promotions (refer to promotions).
As a user, not only you can find lots of promotions here, but also you can contribute by sharing (make a review), posting photos, giving your concern, and asking about the merchants experiences you/others had.

Caripromo is an information portal for merchant discounts and promotions (refer to promotions)

As a user, not only you can find lots of promotions here, but also you can contribute by sharing (make a review), posting photos, giving your concern, and asking about the merchants experiences you/others had.

The app is very focused on searching for deals and optimized for mobile interfaces. Pretty clean stuff and seems to have a niche here in Indonesia.

The other app I liked was foyage – nice name too. It is like Yelp but more based on where you are and who is around you. I think they should add some gaming element to it like foursquare to make it sticky. Hope to sync up with them again.

Then there was buzzcity – read the blog for more on them.

Then domikado – interesting stuff. Basically a mobile trading application but they added everything but the kitchen sink so that people could use their trading application for more things than just trading. Not sure if this works outside of Indonesia but apparently the biz model is paying for their growth and content deals seems to encourage more customers to trade. Nice.

That’s it for now.

ps. for those who don’t know – outside of the US and Canada Indonesia is the largest blackberry country. Indonesia was also the biggest consumer of the old Nokia communicator so not sure what that says about the BB. 🙂

One presenter actually presented from their BB – that was a trip.

Recap/Schedule #1

I am going to try and to do this every week so that people can see what has been going on and look for what is happening during the week ahead. My upcoming widget in the sidebar will show you event info and you can see where I am going on TripIt – Dopplr is dead to me now.

beer_pizzaIt was a busy past week. Had some meetings with local startups like hungrygowhere, gothere, and some others I can’t mention yet. I also attended beer/pizza night at GARAG3 over at the NUS. It was fun to meet everyone and get to know the local startup/incubation scene. It is good to see a group focused on helping startups get productive fast and work on growing their business throughout the region. I plan on doing more with them.

Also want to make people aware of HackerSpace Singapore – I think this is a great idea and really want to see it happen. Pledge now – pledge often. I for one plan on signing up and hope to hang out when I can at the space.

This week I will be in Jakarta. There are 2 events that I will be at:

Mobile Monday and an event I am hasting at Wetiga.

That’s it for now.

More Google roadkill!

There is a slew of articles today about the new phone from Verizon that is using the latest and greatest from Android. Plenty of places to hunt for info on that. This is not the realm of this blog to discuss it. What I want to talk about is what this type of movement by Google means for the startup community at large – especially in this region.

It used to be that one built something and then hoped to either make it alone or get bought out. Google is now showing that they are rich and smart enough to build versus buy. Their simple moves into a sector like GPS or driving devices, via the phone of course – are  creating severe market havoc:

Google released a new mobile navigation app today and GPS navigation companies such as Garmin And TomTom saw their shares take a plunge. The announcement shaved $1.2 billion off of Garmin’s market cap alone. Its shares are down more than 16 percent so far today to $31.60. TomTom’s shares are down 21 percent to $8.11.

Wow. Those are some big numbers. It could be a knee-jerk reaction but chances are this is just a longer term trend for this sector. The scarier part is wondering where will Google go next.

One can also see the games being played with the big guys in this space. Google is throwing their muscle around now and even Apple is not sure how to play it. I think we are seeing the beginning of the big companies now realizing, I knew it all along, that Google is more foe then friend. They want it all. End of story:

This is but the latest sign of a growing rift between Apple and Google. A couple years ago, when the iPhone first launched, Google and Apple had a strong partnership. At the time, Google CEO Eric Schmidt described the relationship as so close that it was akin to merging “without merging. Each company should do the absolutely best thing they can do every time.” Google supposedly didn’t need to creat its own phone, because it could simply create software for the iPhone. And, in fact, some of the best apps on the iPhone—Mail, Maps, YouTube, Search—were developed by Google.

What is interesting about this is Google and Apple probably did start out as friends but for Google to grow they have to start eating their friends or the space that their friends occupy. I think we saw this with Microsoft? I don’t bring these things up to lament the issues or to cry foul. This is the way the world works but I think people should consider how they use or build on top of Google since it looks like Google plans to do it all. I could be exaggerating here but I think if you look at where they started and where they are now it is pretty easy to see Google as a competitive threat in many areas.

One could turn this all around and take the perspective that Google is just being an innovator, destroying old market models and providing a way forward for anyone and everyone. That seems to be the angle TechCrunch has here:

His words echo Arthur C. Clarke’s famous quote “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” Schmidt says that today’s mobile platforms are so powerful that when combined with a robust cloud service they can do “magical things.” And he encourages people not to limit their imaginations when thinking of new applications to serve people.
Inspiring stuff for people out there thinking up the future.

His words echo Arthur C. Clarke’s famous quote “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” Schmidt says that today’s mobile platforms are so powerful that when combined with a robust cloud service they can do “magical things.” And he encourages people not to limit their imaginations when thinking of new applications to serve people.

Inspiring stuff for people out there thinking up the future.

I guess that makes sense providing you don’t try and build something similar to what Google is doing or may plan to do in the next 5 years. My advice – think very hard about what you plan to do or build since you don’t want to be roadkill.

I am sure TomTom was not expecting the tire tracks on their back today.

Looking to hack?

Yes – this is a Yahoo! sponsored event but in this context I think it matters not. There – you have been disclosed.

In my opinion there are not enough free form technical events for coders and people of the technical bent to get together in order to learn, share and hack. Enter Open Hack Days.

If you live in Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam or the Philippines then check this out:

http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/openhackday09

Register and you might be chosen as the winner from your country to be flown to Jakarta – free.

If you live in Indonesia just sign up for the event directly:

http://icanhaz.com/openhacksea/

If you don’t live in Indonesia but want to pay your own way to get there – sign on up.

happy hacking!

What is this site?

It is a work in progress. Now that I am working at Yahoo! I decided I needed to refocus my blogging efforts. Rather than blog about me I think I need to blog about the sphere – the companies and startups I am working with. So this will be a combination of what I am doing, where I am going and highlighting the Southeast Asian tech/startup community. Sure – it is not huge but it is generally bigger than people think. Silicon Valley is not the only game in town and China/India is not the only emerging market space in the world. SEA – is big, growing and the Internet penetration in some countries like Vietnam and Indonesia is just getting going.

My focus for my job is SEA so I think focusing my blog on this region is key but importantly there is a chance here to build something relevant to the region. There are lots of sites out there but none of them seem to look at the startup world from a SEA perspective nor do they fully cover the region. There are sites devoted to Singapore or Malaysia but ask one of them about things happening in Cambodia and you get blank stares. Of course ask the Cambodians about the latest in Indonesia and they won’t have a clue. I travel the region extensively and hope to bridge the gap.

For example – have you heard of Aruna?

My aspirations are big but who knows if I will pull it off. I think there is a need for something akin to TechCrunch and at the same time CrunchBase. Can I pull it off – not sure but it will be fun to try. There are some people discussing this type of thing for Singapore but there again they are thinking too small. We need to tackle the region as a whole – not country by country.

I think possibly using something like YQL to build a DB of startup info might be a cool way to disseminate the information. Not sure yet but those are some of the ideas I have.

If you are interested in pitching in or you want to get me your startup information – please email me: dreampipe at yahoo.com. I am most interested in getting going on this.

Where do the domain name come from – it should be easy. I keep hearing startups and the goverments funding them discussing there KPIs. Folks – the word KPI and startup should never be mentioned in the same breath.

Stay tuned for more!